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Speaking to someone about your business insurance

Thursday, February 9th, 2012

Everyone knows the phrase that a picture paints a thousand words, but how on earth can we relate this to business insurance? Here at businessinsure, we do not pay to advertise. We never have done and hopefully never will. Evreyone that speaks to us does so because they want us to provide them with advice or some form of insurance quote, cover or amendment. With the internet being our primary source, when seeking services from others, we have designed our business solely around this proposition. We have built a website that we believe offers help and advice to the vast majority of small (sub £5,000,000 turnover) to medium companies that will ever have a need for insurance. This website is updated weekly and we have these regular blogs to provide snippets of information to hopefully help people in deciding where to go for a business or property insurance quote.

But, we are not a multi-national, we have helped over 20,000 businesses and individuals over the years, but we do cannot compete with the bigger insurance comparison websites. They have huge marketing budgets and as a result of their huge investment in advertising, pay per click, search engine optimisation and other unknown activities, they get to the Holy Grail, the top of Google UK.

However, just this morning I thought I would check to see where we were appearing on Google, if you do not do this at least once a week then you tend to miss what is trending. My Chrome browser is set to deliver the top ten search results, I do not use Google instant because I have grown up without it and I think the jury is still out on whether this is a good thing or not. Anyway, the main search phrase that people will use is business insurance, of course. This morning, forgetting the paid for results at the top and the side, the top ten results were all different, as you would expect. Of the top ten, 8 were for websites that offered a form of online comparison engine (ie no human interaction), one of them was to businesslink which does not offer independent advice, but instead points you to another website for the British Insurance Brokers Association. We have deliberately chose not to be part of this so do not appear on this site.

Going back then, there are ten results. 8 are for comparison sites or sites with an online quote tool, one is a government sponsored site and the last is us. We are the only entry in the top ten where you can pick up the phone about anything from shop to office to pub insurance and speak to an independent broker and get some independent advice from, wait for it, a human being. This may not be much to some people, but we believe it is a great thing to speak to someone. Going back to a picture painting a thousand words, we find that a five minute phone call can make a huge difference to making someone fill in pages and pages of a website.

If your business does not fit into one of their chosen categories, your snookered. Speak to us and we can work out what product you need, what we can offer you and if not, where else we can send you. All of this in a short phone call. The frustrating thing is that, we are never going to sit at the top of the tree, even though we give people what they need and want.

Businessinsure is back

Tuesday, November 15th, 2011

It has been tough, changing website providers and not being able to access and update the website. But, after just one month we are back in action, on the blog front at least. As far as businessinsure is concerned, we have continued to trade as we are seeing more new business activity in November than we have seen for at least two years.

Being an independent business insurance broker is a pretty good barometer for what is going on, business wise, out there in UK plc. We speak to each and every person that we provide a quote for, this way we can get an understanding of what is really happening. The entrepreneurial spirit in the UK is, contrary to some opinions, thriving as well as it ever did. It may come across as harsh, but with the banks throwing money around 5 or 6 years ago, anyone could start a business. Some were started which really had no chance of success. This is not because of the people running the businesses necessarily, but the fact that banks were not lending subject to strict criteria. In 2011, if yo can get funding, the banks have actually gone the other way and are practically asking you to get blood from a stone before they will lend you any ready cash.

In a way this is forcing the standard good, sensible business procedures on people so they do not get into too much debt, too easily. One of our big, big sellers is pub insurance, we have seen many, many businesses go in the last 36 months. Nowadays though, instead of a bank lending £200,000 without blinking, they are now setting strict criteria which makes business owners absolutely concentrate on building businesses and growing turnover, income and profit. Five years ago if you had a bad year, the bank would lend more, as an owner you didn’t really have to face the music and go out there and drum up good quality business.

Some of the left leaning newspapers are saying that the UK has never had it so bad. This is not true, we spent years saying that the UK was over-geared and in debt. This is slowly, and I mean slowly, changing. Will the good times come back? No, not in the easy money form that we saw in 2003-2007. What we will see is a lean, mean, economic machine. The good old times will be back when you only got what you could realistically afford and you realised that just because one of your neighbours had a shiny new car it didn’t mean that you had to get one as well.

What next for the UK general insurers?

Wednesday, September 28th, 2011

Anyone who has individual shares, or a plan with holdings, in any of the UK financial institutions will probably not want to be reminded of the last 6 months. The back end of 2010 and early 2011 saw a slow but steady rise in the share price. But, with the Eurozone and elsewhere in the world still nowhere out of the financial woods yet, shares have taken a hammering.

But does the overall share price of some of these companies have any effect on your business insurance premium, for example. In a word, in capital letters, that are in bold and flashing lights, the answer is NO. We have been trading now since the year 2000. We have seen the tail end of the dot.com boom, the panic in the financial markets following 9/11 and, here in the UK, the financial bubble that the Labour party inflated and inflated from 2002 to 2007. After this fell apart we saw shares in some of the bigger UK insurers plummet and whilst they recovered during 2008, 9 and 10, many are not far off their early to mid 2008 figures.

The good thing is that these companies are so large and many so diverse, that the stock markets valuation (in its loosest possible sense) of their company has no effect whatsoever on the premiums they charge. And there is logic to his. The great Warren Buffet bought an insurance company because it had such a substantial “float” in the form of premium. If a companies share price is hit, and they try and increase this float too much, through increased premiums, one of two things will happen.

If there are competitors doing the same thing, then thay can follow the same wave as the market (in terms of premium income) increases. If however they are doing this on their own, then what tends to happen is that the compeititon cherry pick the best, at good premiums, and the company that are trying to increase only get to keep the dross.

All types of covers, such as pub insurance, are subject to fluctuating premiums throughout any year, but an increase of more than 5% is not going to be stomached by many punters in the real world.

Pub, hotel or restaurant insurance?

Friday, June 24th, 2011

After a relative lull in new business insurance enquiries for pubs and licensed trade businesses, we are slowly starting to see an increase in 2011. I do not think we are ever going to get back to the same activity levels as 2007 when the UK banks seemed to be throwing money at new business, leisure related, ventures.  Unfortunately for many, the banks were foolish in what they did and businesses were saddled with more debt than they should have had. We all know the rest of the story, but thankfully we can last see a glint of light at the end of the tunnel.

With the new enquiries we are getting through, we are tending to see a small change, we do not necessarily get a distinct pub insurance quote enquiry. Many of these businesses are not just pubs, but maybe have letting rooms and/or a restaurant.

As far as the insurance rating is concerned, for identical sums insured there would be a small difference for each of the trades. This of course depends on which insurer you go to, but the question is how do you get the best quote? If you use one of the online providers, you will find it very difficult to pick a mixed use category. Do not be tempted to pick pub or hotel or restaurant or takeaway. What you do not want to do is take the wrong option and be faced with a claim that is turned down because the insurers say that you forgot to tell them that you were a restaurant with takeaway.

Firstly, you need to get a rough idea of how much of your turnover relates to which particular activity. For example, if you are a pub, with letting rooms, and you earn 60% of your turnover from the pub, then you will do this on a pub policy.

Secondly, you need to speak to an independent broker and let them look around the market for you to get the best possible price, for your exact business description, with the widest possible cover.

Getting a pub insurance quote for a thatched premises

Friday, February 4th, 2011

In most areas of England, and less so in Scotland and Wales, there are still many, many thatched properties. The vast majority of these are residential, but there are still a large number used by the licensed trade. The higher risk of fire means that this does affect the availability of competitive pub insurance.

There are two different things to consider. The first is if you are looking for a full package including the buildings and the second is where you lease the building. Over 90% of the thatched properties, used as pubs or restaurants, are owned by a brewery group or property owner. If you do have an individual building you need to get insured then we can help, through access to specialist insurers.

If however you are looking for a quote for the trading risk (ie stock, contents, liabilities etc) then it is fairly easy for us to get a quote. Many of the commercial insurance companies that offer pub policies will shy away from this. The markets we have are much happier to underwrite these types of risks. The only usual requirement is that there is an “open fire” warranty applied. This effectively means that if there is an open fire then it is checked 30 minutes after the pub is closed (and the fire is extinguished).

Your landlord will probably have similar requirements under their commercial building insurance policy, so you are more than likely to be complying already with something very similar. If the thatched roof is very old, or in poor condition, you may have trouble getting damage for ingress of water (from a storm) as this likelihood is increased as the roof deteriorates. You do tend to find though that roofs are replaced every 10 to 15 years and a lot are now replaced with metal sheets at the base. This prevents the risk of fire spreading to the roof and water ingress going the other way.

The best thing you can do is give a few brokers a call. For a pub (no buildings) package quote, with approximately £30,000 contents and other covers, we can get a quote for around £750 per annum, depending on the location and other factors (including claims and whether the owners live in).

December pub insurance deals

Thursday, December 2nd, 2010

Unlike most physical products, pub insurance policies are not available at set prices. Here at Businessinsure, we do not go in for the marketing that says we will guarantee to beat your existing premium. Usually, these deals are so tight anyway and if you have had claims or there are other “out of the ordinary” factors, the guarantee does not apply. We have also heard of one guarantee that beat the premium a customer had, but tripled the excess. Not quite such a good deal!

What we can do, is to promise you that we will always do our level best to find you the best priced quote and the widest cover. When looking for business insurance, it is a bit of a balancing act. We have to discuss with you what your demands and needs are, and to offer you the best product from our panel of suppliers.

If we offer you a dirt cheap quote, then it is likely that someone within that quote you may find that the cover is not quite as good as you used to have. What we can do, and this happens in 95% of enquiries, is to offer you a better premium, usually around 10% less, for the same or better cover.

You have a choice, you can spend days and days searching and yes, you will find a cheaper quote. But the opposite side of this choice is, if you take the cheaper quote then you will probably end up paying in the long run.

Whilst we have headed this December pub insurance deals, we will always do our best, whether it is now or in future months. Give us a call and see what we can do for you.

Pub insurance – what affects the cost?

Monday, November 15th, 2010

Pub insurance, as with any type of business policy, is priced (or a premium calculated) based on a number of risk factors. Insurers have years and years of statistics upon which they normally base their premium calculations.

When looking for a quote, depending on who you speak to, you will be asked a number of questions. Of these, a certain amount will have a direct affect on the premium and others will affect whether insurers will accept the risk and what terms and conditions they will apply.

The main factors which affect the cost are the location, the sums insured and the type of business.

Location can affect things in two ways. City centre pubs will attract a higher rate but, remote pubs will also attract a higher rate. Each business insurance company will build in to their pricing the potential fire risk. If you have a pub that is only covered by a retained, part time, fire brigade the potential of a higher (cost wise) loss from a higher is increased. City centre pubs are simply more likely to be broken into and/or have windows maliciously damaged.

Sums insured will, of course, affect the cost. But, you should never consider insuring for less than the correct amount to replace your contents, buildings or stock. If you do, then insurers could reduce any future claims settlement.

The type of business will also have a direct influence on your premium. Factors such as late licensing hours, whether you have doormen (even if they are agency), the entertainment you provide and whether you charge admission.

When looking for a quote, the only way you can really be assured of getting a range of prices from the market is to speak to an independent business insurance broker. Some insurers want to underwrite country pubs (and skew their prices accordingly) whereas others are happier to competitively price city centre pubs. Without going to an independent, you do not know whether or not you are getting the best “market price”.

Pub insurance – alternative renewal quotes

Friday, August 20th, 2010

We have arranged pub insurance for a particular customer for many years. We have, were necessary, moved their insurance cover from one company to another to ensure they always get the best deal.

They have significant sums insured and we have always got them the best deal, with year on year decreases because of a no claims discount. This year though, they have an alternative quote that was 20% less. They called us up and told us this and quite rightly said that they could not afford to say no. They had given our renewal quote to the other specialist business insurance broker, who had said (but would not confirm in writing) that they were offering comparable cover.

As the customer is long standing, they emailed through the quote. Unfortunatley the differences in the cover were staggering. The sums insured were less than hald, there was no legal expenses insurance and the excess was £500. It is quite obvious why they would not put this in writing.

We discussed this and they reduced some of our sums insured but realised that they were basically being conned.

If they had not spoken to us, they could have gone ahead with the cheaper quote and lost out big time. When you get to your renewal, speak to someone like Businessinsure. We will always quote like for like wherever possible and if there are any glaring differences, we will let you know.

Pub insurance quote

Tuesday, July 6th, 2010

What is the best way, in 2010, to get a pub insurance quote? This is an extremely difficult question if you sit down at your computer and Google this. You only get a list of 294,000 websites to choose from!

How do you know which one is the best one to visit and will get you the best possible price? This does not have to be a needle in a haystack scenario. Most of the Google hits you are going to get are from business insurance brokers, these are the people you need to go to. Others, will be from single company commercial insurers.

So, why should you go to a broker and not go direct? The simple answer is choice. You do not go to an off-licence that offers one type of beer and one type of wine. What you do is go to one that lets you choose different types, colours, strengths, brands and costs.

It is the same with your insurance, companies that only offer business insurance direct will only offer the one policy. A broker however will be able to go to one, two, three or however many insurers they want to get you the best deal.

There is such a difference in price between the top and the bottom that you cannot possibly be expected to check through every single quote, and the cover and service they provide, yourself.

You could get one quote at £650 and another at £750, the hundred pound difference is important, short term, but what happens if you pick the cheaper one and then find out it is missing some important cover? This is where you realise that the hundred quid you saved is immaterial as your £5,000 claim for an employment tribunal claim goes nowhere as you do not have the cover.

Pub insurance – do your insurers know about your cellar or basement?

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

When providing a pub insurance quote, you will find that most companies ask you a set list of questions. They will then go away and approach 4 or 5 commercial insurance companies and get them to provide a quote.

What happens next is that the insurers provide a “quote”. Legally, this must be a combination of both a price, or annual premium, and details of the terms, conditions, excesses etc (the policy) that applies. Just getting a price is absolutely meaningless, you need to see the terms as well to see whether the price is worth paying.

Within these terms and conditions there are certain assumptions made. With pubs and licensed trade premises, any stock or business contents stored within a cellar can have quote onerous conditions applied to the cover. These can range from the exclusion of any damage caused by water (flooding or burst pipes) through to an increased excess for water damage.

You need to declare to your broker that you have a basement or cellar and ask them to get you a quote with the smallest excess for water damage, but only if you store stock or contents in the cellar. Most pubs keep their beers in the basement, even though the barrels are aluminium, if they get wet then Health and Safety will say that they cannot be used, so you need to have suitable insurance cover in place to replace ALL of your stock in the event of loss or damage.

Most policies will have a standard excess of £250 for every claim, depending on your flooding history at the pub, you should be able to get cover without this excess being increased.